"I’ve lived on the border of financial destruction for the last 20 years, because the sheer joy of doing something your way is—you can’t define it. It’s like heroin. Every time that you express something, you have to prepare yourself for critique. It’s not like critique is a nice thing to get. We all don’t want to be yelled at for doing something wrong. But you begin to look at how people are critiquing, and it becomes interesting. So when people are violently reacting to an experience that you have given them at the same time that people are praising or loving it for the exact same thing—that’s when you know you have done something right. It makes them think. It makes them react. Art was not made to satisfy the masses in any way, and it never has. There is a great satisfaction in people cheering and booing at the same time."